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Now it's been stated more than a few times, but to cement it in;
Characters from the Batman mythos have been done in so many ways that there are dozens of variations, as a side effect there is no "real" version of most of the characters, so the only one we can be true to is the one in our mind's eye.
So I ask, When you think of a character, what are they like;
Does your Batman bear the emblem of a bat surounded by a yellow oval, or does he bear a bat across his entire chest? Does he have a high-tech metal utility belt, or does his belt have simple pouches. Does he have a deep and earthy voice or a light and laid back voice?
So to be in depth you can answer,
I think of Batman's suit as Dark Grey, with no over-underware. The Black areas of the suit(gloves, boots,etc) have Grey highlights instead of Blue, he has a Black utility belt similar to the ones in modern comics, Black army boots, and Black leather gloves similar to the ones in the Burton films; except with scalloped gauntlets worn underneath so that the scallops protrude out the side. He has the Alex Ross style bat emblem which streches across his entire chest, and the cowl from Batman: Deadend; but with glowing white lenses in the eyes. Finaly the cape from Begins that can turn into a glider. He has a face similar to the one drawn by Alex Ross, but younger looking. The muscle build of Bale's Batman in Begins. He also has the voice of Kevin Conroy.
Or you can answer simply;
I think of Alex Ross' Joker with a toned down version of Mark Hamil's Joker voice.
Yes you can mention any character you want, but I'd appretiate you describing your Batman as well.
And yes, those two examples are my answers.
Oh, you can also list what the character is like as a person,
My Batman is pretty much what as Batman was in The Long Halloween/Dark Victory.
My Joker is a homicidal maniac, he kills people just for the fun of it, and laughs his butt of while doing it. He's not bi-polar, he is just perpetually happy; But he dosen't make jokes all the time. He's also highly inteligent.
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
R.I.P. Heath
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Posted on 02-09-2006 21:00 |
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No takers?... Nobody? Do I smell or something?! :|
I might as well just answer my self... 
Harvey Dent/Two-Face, In my mind he has a Red, acid burned look to his scars instead them being Green or Blue. His hand is scared as well as his face, because he tried to sheild himself with his hand. And the scars on his face don't just stop halfway on his face, their uneven, like if acid hit someone in reality. And all of the hair on the scared side of his head is gone.
As for his suit, it's almost exactly like in Btas, except inverted so that the white side of his jacket, pants and tie and the Black side of his shirt are on the scared of his face; Anyone who's seen the anime "Gungrave" knows why.
As for his voice, just like he was in Btas.
As for character, he's like he was in "Dark Victory".
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
R.I.P. Heath
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Posted on 02-09-2006 21:02 |
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Poison Ivy;
Looks like Alex Ross' version, except a little less creepy.
Voice and personality like in Btas.
Catwoman;
Look's like she did in "The Long Halloween", personality from Btas, and voice from Returns.
And sorry about double posting, I accidentally sent the same post twice, and had to do something with one of them. :|
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
R.I.P. Heath
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Posted on 02-09-2006 22:41 |
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Had to think about this for a bit. Here are my "ideal" characters:
Batman: I like the JLU style costume, gray with the black cowl/cape/gloves/boots/underoos, no oval, long ears, no pupils. I like the personality & voice used in BTAS/TNBA/JL/JLU, but I like the current comic incarnation where he's facing up to mistakes he's made in the past.
Joker: My ideal design is probably closest to Alex Ross' design, though I push it more towards the Gentlemen from the Buffy: The Vampire Slayer episode "Hush." Voice & personality, I'd say BTAS/TNBA/BB got it perfect - crazy, but highly intelligent with a cruel streak a mile wide and a penchant towards psychological torture.
Two-Face: BTAS. Nothing further to add here.
Ivy: TNBA's design works pretty well for me, I like the pale looking Ivy.
Catwoman: 1990s purple costume Catwoman with the current comics personality.
Penguin: I'd have to say the NML Penguin was my favorite, I liked the way he played that out.
Mr. Freeze: BTAS/TNBA/BB: perfect.
Riddler: Hush design, TB psychosis.
Scarecrow: TNBA design & voice: the first and only Scarecrow to truly live up to his name.
Batgirl: TNBA personality, BoP(TV) look.
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Batman: Oval or no oval, either way is cool with me. I too enjoy how he looked in JLU, the grey with black and somewhat longer ears. I really enjoy how Michael Turner draws him (as well we Supes) and wish he could draw him more in a series. I enjoy Jeff Matsuda's claw like hands as well.
I tend to imagine him with a bit of stubble as well, just a tad, not too messy.
In terms of personality, BTAS/TNBA/JLU personality for me. The current comic book personality is welcome as well.
Joker: I like the idea of him being incredibly psychotic, and instead of making jokes or whatever just for the hell of it he finds humor in his victims' pain. He might throw a joke hear or there while he does his crimes, but only to further his own sadistic pleasure and the victim's pain.
I think in terms of how he looks.....I kinda have an image of him being in a suit obviously, but he's very well dressed and his clothes are very stylish. I think of his hair being a darker, almost black, shade of green and a little bit longer. Its slicked back and well kept, but when he's in a fight it gets a little messy and comes undone.
When he leaves his victims smiling, as he does in many different stories about him, I think he leaves them smiling because he took a knife from the sides of their mouths ot the ears making a large smile shape.
Harley Quinn: Pretty much BTAS, since its the only time she's really been done justice.
Although, Jeff Matsuda's new design has the white part around her neck shaped differently. I actually kind of prefer the way the white part looks on his design, its much more modern and sleek.
She's not as sadistic as the Joker, inf act she's more playfully crazy than anything, but she in any case she is definately underestiamted in terms of how insane she is. I like to think she could easily snap one day and take on Batman head to head.
Catwoman: personality as she is right now in the comics, her design being a mix of her current costume and the black/white one from TNBA. I think of it being very leathery, very bondage-like.
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i think Batman should be like he is in Batman The Animated Series, and Justice League, Batman Begins, and in The Comic Books, and he should also have a deep voice, and earthly voice too.
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Posted on 03-09-2006 10:49 |
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in my mind...
the perfect batman would be the BTAS batman, but with the symbol they use in modern comics, treads on the bottom of his boots, and the belt in HUSH. and he would be a catholic/christian. you cant really tell if batman has any beliefs, but usually people think he has none; but i think it would make the story interesting if he did.
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Posted on 03-09-2006 16:00 |
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Phil wrote:
in my mind...
the perfect batman would be the BTAS batman, but with the symbol they use in modern comics, treads on the bottom of his boots, and the belt in HUSH. and he would be a catholic/christian. you cant really tell if batman has any beliefs, but usually people think he has none; but i think it would make the story interesting if he did.
Umm... Which do you mean, Catholic or Christian. I might as well tell you I'm a Christian and it really dosen't have a big effect on what I do, sure I believe in God and Jesus; but if I didn't I'd still be the same person I am now. I mean it's not like I pray every ten seconds, or beleive that people will go to hell for not having my beliefs, I've never even been to a church to pray. I don't beleive The Pope or anyone else can tell me what God says. And I don't believe that I need to go to a confesional or church to be reconciled for my sins.
As you can see, simple Christianity is quite differant from Catholicism or any other diehard religion.
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Posted on 03-09-2006 22:35 |
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yeah, but i'm a christian too. but i dont know much about catholicism, sorry for my ignorance. i meant christian.
bruce becoming batman depends on w/e his motivation was...not everyone that gets their parents killed decides to turn into a hero. so i guess i should have said....one of his motivations to become batman was in his faith. and remember, this is in my mind. i'm a 14 year old kid that doesnt know much.
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Posted on 04-09-2006 11:52 |
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Ok, I'm catholic and I'd like to clear up some things about Catholocism. I don't really like to go off topic like this, but at church yesterday the priest was sort of talking about this in his seromon. (which he related to Batman and Superman) Lol!!
Christianity is a faith. Catholocism is a religion. Being Christian means that you believe in Jesus and all that stuff (I'm not going to list everything) Catholicism is a form of christianity. You can be catholic and still be christian. Christianity is what you believe and how you live. Being catholic or mormon or lutheran, or whatever is just how you worship. I don't think there is a wrong way to worship, the important part is that you believe and how you live.
Ok, now that I'm done with that I'll answer Razhwurz's mind's eye question, so I can pretend like I stayed a little on topic.
Batman:TNAS, not TAS I like the way he looks in TNAS better. Especially Bruce he's hot for a cartoon character!!! Lol But maybe more with the batman begins personality.
Joker:Mark Hamill's voice, looks like hush joker, but a lot more scary and sadistic. Like I hope they do in the new movie.
Catwoman: Batman Returns catwoman
Poisin Ivy: hush style
Nightwing: Hush style
Batgirl: Me in a batgirl costume!!! Lol!!! 
Seriously, TNAS style.
Anyone else I didn't mention is probably TNAS style.
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Batgirl Said: Christianity is a faith. Catholocism is a religion. Being Christian means that you believe in Jesus and all that stuff (I'm not going to list everything) Catholicism is a form of christianity. You can be catholic and still be christian.
I actually new that, hense the qualifier "Simple".
I Said: As you can see, simple Christianity is quite differant from Catholicism or any other diehard religion.
On with the subject.
Batgirl: Alex Ross look, Btas/Tnba Personality, Tnba voice.
Nightwing: Jim Lee look, Tnba personality and voice.
Batgirl Said: Batman:TNAS, not TAS I like the way he looks in TNAS better. Especially Bruce he's hot for a cartoon character!!!
Your lucky, all the women lost any attractive curves in the conversion from Btas to Tnba.
Never start with the head; the victim gets all fuzzy!
R.I.P. Heath
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Ok, well sorry for repeating you. I was just clarifying I guess. Catholocism is kind of misunderstood sometimes.
Batgirl Said: Batman:TNAS, not TAS I like the way he looks in TNAS better. Especially Bruce he's hot for a cartoon character!!!
Your lucky, all the women lost any attractive curves in the conversion from Btas to Tnba.
Lol!!!
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Batgirl Said:Ok, well sorry for repeating you. I was just clarifying I guess. Catholocism is kind of misunderstood sometimes.
No need to apologize, I didn't really state it all that well, so thanks for bringing that point to light. And Catholocism is misunderstood I guess; mostly what comes to my mind when I think of Catholics is people controled by religion, but that's because I've never really been exposed to Catholics who weren't.
I Said:Batgirl: Alex Ross look, Btas/Tnba Personality, Tnba voice.
On second thought, she'd have Yvonne Craig's looks, while wearing the Ross costume.
Scarecrow: Under The mask he looks like Cillian Murphy, but his costume is the one Tnba. His personality is from Begins.
The Riddler: Btas voice, looks, and personality.
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No need to apologize, I didn't really state it all that well, so thanks for bringing that point to light. And Catholocism is misunderstood I guess; mostly what comes to my mind when I think of Catholics is people controled by religion, but that's because I've never really been exposed to Catholics who weren't.
What do you mean controlled by religion?
Scarecrow: Under The mask he looks like Cillian Murphy, but his costume is the one Tnba. His personality is from Begins.
Yeah that's how I'd picture Scarecrow too.
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Batgirl: What do you mean controlled by religion?
Most of the Catholics I've met or seen are usually talking down to other people about how accepting God and Jesus will enrich their lives. I also here a lot of them talking about God and Jesus a lot. And a lot of what I've been exposed to has been people who say "If have a difficult choice a head of you just think; what would Jesus do."
I don't want to have to stop and think what would Jesus do, I want to have a grasp on whats right and wrong and be able to decide for myself.
But I've really got no grasp on the actual the religon, as I've never experianced it; so if I'm acting like a jerk it's because I'm ignorant and missinformed, a fact that I hate.
Batgirl: Yeah that's how I'd picture Scarecrow too.
Cool, do you also think he should have a voice changer to give him a creepy, menacing voice similar to what he had during the halucinations in Begins?
The Penguin: Btas every thing.
Alfred: Michael Caine with a moustache, Begins personality.
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lol i should have never said anything. oh well. i still say batman should be a christian. but all the denominations have all the same goals anyways right?
back to topic...
robin: everything that is robin OYL, except the art. i dont like the art in it too much. i guess jim lee's robin with the oyl suit. yes! thats perfect.
nightwing: looks like TB nightwing, but acts like TNBA nightwing (i dont know how TB nightwing is just yet...but i love nightwing in TNBA). i dont know much about the comic nightwing. i've read HUSH and infinite crisis, thats it. he seems pretty different from his animated counterpart.
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Batgirl: What do you mean controlled by religion?
Most of the Catholics I've met or seen are usually talking down to other people about how accepting God and Jesus will enrich their lives. I also here a lot of them talking about God and Jesus a lot. And a lot of what I've been exposed to has been people who say "If have a difficult choice a head of you just think; what would Jesus do."
I don't want to have to stop and think what would Jesus do, I want to have a grasp on whats right and wrong and be able to decide for myself.
But I've really got no grasp on the actual the religon, as I've never experianced it; so if I'm acting like a jerk it's because I'm ignorant and missinformed, a fact that I hate.
Ok, I know what you mean, but I don't think it's just catholics that have that problem. Alot of christians in general have a problem of being too much or too little focused on religion. It isn't bad to have some sort of guidlines to live by in your faith, but thinking that you guidlines are the best and eveyone should think the same way you do, by dragging them down or something is where the problems are. Again, it's your faith and belief that is important.
I know what you mean about christians (again not only catholics) having a problem with talking down to people who dont share their faith. And that is where christians get the bad reputation, and people are turned off by that, not encouraged.
I don't think you're being a jerk at all. Alot of people, especially other christians, don't understand catholics, and I appreciate that you want to be informed, instead of trying to convince me that your way of believing is better or something.
I hope no one thinks I'm trying to convert them or preach to them, I just want to inform, so that my beliefs aren't misinterpreted.
lol i should have never said anything. oh well. i still say batman should be a christian. but all the denominations have all the same goals anyways right?
Lol!!
Yeah, I would like to see that side of batman as well.
And yes they do have the same goals, or at least they should.
Cool, do you also think he should have a voice changer to give him a creepy, menacing voice similar to what he had during the halucinations in Begins?
Yes!! definitely!! I loved the scary voice!!
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a voice changer? hahahaha!!! that would be so funny. what if robin got a hold of it? i think that would be even scarier. a little red and black boy with a demon-like voice. actually, that might be funny. i dont know. lol. i'm sure the joker would laugh.
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Phil Said: a voice changer? hahahaha!!! that would be so funny.
Why is that funny? The things do actually exist, though they can't work quite to the effect I'm talking about. A lot of Techno musicians use them to give there voice a metalic sound to go with the music in live perfomances when they can't edit their voice on a computer.
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i dont think its necessary though. batman is psycho enough to actually think hes two different people and change his voice completely.
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